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The Great Loop and other River Travels

So much of the popular press and media seems to associate boating with one of two "extremes". You are either a full-up passagemaker, going across the open seas, visiting far lands and rounding Cape Horn. At the other end of the spectrum, you are a weekend runabout operator towing the kids on a ring or skiing. Mind you, I don't think there is anything wrong with either end if that's your thing (and you have the means), but there is a "middle ground" that seems very attractive to me that doesn't get as much following.

Inland Cruising

There are many names for this... river cruising, coastal cruising, gunk holing, etc. all probably encompass some of the ideas. But just in the U.S. there are thousands of miles of navigable rivers (open to fairly large craft) that are often ignored. Did you know that you can get to Oklahoma from the ocean? I didn't until a couple of years ago.

Much of Europe is accessible by canal, providing your craft will fit... and many of the canals will handle some pretty large craft. Great Britain is somewhat an exception to this. They have a tremendous number of canals, but many are designed around a "narrowboat"... a long, very narrow (7' or so) craft that is pretty unique to them. But even the U.K. has quite a few larger waterways.

Studying history we know that cities grew up around transportation methods, and a couple of hundred years ago, that meant rivers. So many of the worlds large cities are accessible by water.

You can make years long trips via water and never cross an ocean. You could probably do it without getting near the ocean :-) The Great Loop (circumnavigating the eastern United States of America) is one example. For much of the trip you are in protected, inland waters.

I want to expand on some of the on-line resources I have found for inland travel. There are publically accessible charts for the U.S. now, and several cruising guides you can purchase.

Where should you be hanging out?

In the "olden days", up until about 3 years ago :-), to research boats and boat plans you probably went to the local library, hung out near the shore and found some old-timers, wrote letters, made phone calls and ordered books (from the local bookstore, not Amazon).

Today, the Internet has brought such a wealth of resources in nearly any field imaginable, and the boating world is well represented. One of my goals for this site was to try to bring a few specific "places" and "communities" together, to point out some of the similarities between them, and to maybe let some of the ideas cross-pollinate a bit. There are several groups (some with overlapping membership and some not) that to me have some very similar ideas and that you (the boater and boat builder) can really learn from. Sometimes the ideas are diametrically opposed, and in that case, you can also learn... both groups will have (usually) well reasoned arguments for their points of view, and whichever (or both or neither) you decide to follow, you will have learned and found some thought provoking commentary.

On the flip side, there is SOOOOO much out there, you can rapidly reach information overload, have too many options and never be able to make a decision. Every boat is a (large) set of compromises... none of them are perfect. You can find accurate and not so accurate information and opinions on every side of every question. Be careful... don't believe it just because you read it.

So far, I've made some postings with some links, but haven't really done as much in this regard as I wanted. I'm going to take this "book" type entry and try to expand on some of this area. Follow along the navigation links at the bottom to get to some of the various sections.

Drop me a note with recommendations of on-line resources that you have found and I'll see about adding them.

Design Catalog

I'm going to try to put together a general catalog of designs that interest me, some commentary on what I like and dislike about each, and some general requirements. Hopefully as I flesh this out I can narrow some choice and determine more of my true requirements vs. wants. That's not to say that I might not decide a 'want' isn't a requirement - after all, the entire boat is more of a want than a need :-)

Around and around we go

Where we stop, nobody knobws...

Decisions, decisions. I'm in an agony of decisions.

As discussed in one of the previous postings concerning The Perfect Boat, there just isn't a "right" answer to all of this.

Given "plenty" of money, the answer might be easier (so I tell myself), but in reality, I would probably just create a different set of choices.

Currently, this is where things stand:

  • Mark V Designs V39
  • Dutch barge
  • Self designed
  • Mundoo III
  • Origami (Rover36)

In a brief email with Mark Van A., we've discussed the similarities in efficiency of his design and the Mundoo III. Given the cost difference in plans, and the fact that its a bigger boat, the V39 is winning here.

Alternatively, a modular, self-designed boat looks like it would be about the same. But there's the rub. Whatever I do, this is going to cost a good bit of money and time. I would really like it to function adequately at the end of the process. Mark's design is proven.

Downside to Mark's design is the flat bottom. It seems to be known to pound a bit, as all flat bottoms do. This is enough of an issue that Mark is making his next design be slightly V bottomed (his upcoming V28 trailerable design). That would be worth closely looking at except for two things... its a little short, and the plans aren't done yet :-)

The Dutch Barge world has the shape, style and size that I wish I had, but is going to require steel construction and a bigger budget, although the interior is going to be much easier than a lot of boats.

The Perfect Boat

Ah, the quest for the perfect boat. I'm assured that nearly everyone seems to fall into this trap, but despite these warnings, and thinking that I'm approaching the problem with great reason and with my eyes wide open, I walk right into the snare.

I tend to be perfectionist by nature... I fall into this trap creating web pages, writing computer code, organizing, etc. I don't know why I thought it would be any different with boats. It wasn't :-)

If you read any of my background in this quest, you can see that I've run the gamut, and although much more educated and well read now, I haven't begun to approach the expertise I really need. Not that something like that will hold me back... I've jumped right in and accomplished many other things in my life, learning by doing, or studying a book, or trial and error, or whatever. I'll be safe about it, but I can do this to.

So, lets pick the boat...

But there ISN'T a perfect boat. As person after person points out, its all about tradeoffs. I don't want tradeoffs, I want it "right" :-)

Well, a few of the items to consider, and a few thoughts on them.

Buy vs. Build

Buy of course. Only thing that makes sense. Let professionals design and build something that they (and you) know will work. Get somthing that has a chance of resale.

Build does have a few things going for it... can be lower cost (as long as you don't count your labor). Can get exactly what you want (provided you can manage to build it, and provided you can figure out what you want... now that seems to be the hard part).

But I want to build a boat. That's about the only valid seeming reason to build a boat, as many have commented.

Decision: Build

Steel vs. Wood

Steel - tough, heavy, cheap or expensive. Finish is important. Will it rust away (probably not with reasonable care and modern coatings)?

Wood - I have the tools for this. I can build at least part of it here at home without the neighbors driving me away.

Decision: Still vacilating... I want a steel boat, but realities may make the other decision for me.

Kit vs. Scratchbuilt

A kit for my style of boat pretty much means having steel CNC cut. This is available from a variety of suppliers and really seems the way to go. If the plans have been created electronically and the CNC data already generated. Paying extra for this data to be created may not be worth it, but paying to have the steel pre-cut and ready to assemble I think would pay off in time and effort.

Is this cheating in saying I built the boat? Maybe, but I think there is still enough to do to "count". :-)

Decision: Kit if available

Coastal vs. Passagemaking

We all dream of the passage to the far lands. Now I'm different that I don't dream of the South Sea Islands, but much more of Europe (U.K. and the mainland). Would I like to sail across the ocean on my own vessel's bottom and see the land over the pond? Sure. Will I ever get to? Maybe, but probably not. WIll the first boat be "perfect" and the one I get to do this in? Nearly certainly not.

Can I cruise the extensive shores and inland waterways of the U.S. (Eastern Seaboard especially)? Yes. Will a Coastal vessal do for that? Yes. Shallow draft and geared toward a little less self sufficiency and seagoing ability seems a much better tradeoff. In the near-term I'll still be working (either travelling to the boat and boating for a period of time here and there, or working from the boat if a couple of ventures work out). More space and less long-term live-aboard seems a better deal.

Even if I "make it" and can go to Europe, having a craft that will fit in the canals is probably more important to me than heavy sea-going ability.

Decision: Coastal

Size

Bigger is always better, right? Not necessarily.

I don't intend to (or be able to) have a crew. It will be me, my wife and my son (who currently isn't old enough to help much, but that will change soon). Then he will run off to school, and it will be just the two of us. A craft small enough to easily handle for two is important.

Costs to berth, fuel, mainain, etc. all increase rapidly with size.

On the flip side, I'm a land dweller. I'm used to my space. Can I adjust to a small area for weeks at a time? Probably, but...

Decision: 32-42 ft.

Designer/design

Ah, the impossible question.

Decision: I'll let you know. Over the next several posts, I'll try to expand on this a bit...

The European influence

Over my (now years) of research, I've gone through several phases of the type of boat I liked (wanted, drooled over, whatever). I've slowly become a bit (lot) more untraditional, if tradition is referring to the standard U.S. centric idea of cruising boats. I have never been greatly drawn toward the larger, go-fast boats... they are quite nice, just not "my thing".

My wife and I are both big fans of England and Europe, have traveled there several times, love the cultures and some of the "differences", and look forward to being able to go back. I would love to cruise the canals, both UK and mainland. A close friend has rented a narrowboat in England for a week and had a blast... we may get to do that someday.

Anyway, all of this has led me to researching the "dutch" or European designs more. Some of my current leanings come directly or indirectly from those areas.

I'm going to list a few links and some comments about them here, as a starting point. I'll probably expand on this post and add some links from it to more detailed pages over time.


 

Euroship Services has some very interesting designs, from the small to the very large. They are fairly widely built, both professionally and by amatures. They have a large selection of "modernized" Dutch Barges. I have been particularly attracted to the Dutch Barge look/design. I feel that it could make an excellant coastal cruiser (maybe more than that if weather was watched closely). Not everyone agrees, but some do (check this thread).

Narrowboats (sized to fit the quite narrow U.K. canal system) are less interesting to me, but many of the ideas translate well from them to larger (wider) vessels. An interesting forum site is the Canal World Discussion Forums.

For kits, in addition to Euroship Services, Branson Boat Design Limited offers a smaller, but very interesting range of craft. I have exchanged email with them, and they are willing to work with me and a local steel supplier/CNC cutting house to have a "kit" produced locally to me, which seems more practical than shipping it across "the pond" (the Atlantic).


Lastly, for this article I'll bring MacNaughton Design Group to light. Most of Mr. MacNaughton's designs don't fit in this arena, but he has one design, the Eventide, listed on his design page (scroll down). In correspondence with him, he has indicated it would cost a small amount (I don't know that its a public figure... contact him through his web page for details) to finish this design. A very fair price for custom design work, I think.

 

Web Site Layout/Organization

At a basic level, there will be just a few types of postings on this site, at least initially. Articles which range from various of my personal musings, to detailed technical descriptions (if I can find people to write them up :-). There will be links to other web sites, and blog entries which are more of a "diary" type entry describing events over time. Links to these various sections can be found at the top.

Since I "do computers" for a living, playing with the website and different organization schemes, etc. is another interest of mine. This site is going to be laid out a little differently than some, following some of the new "tagging" or "taxonomy" methods beginning to be used more and more.

What this means to the end user is that articles, postings, blog entries, web links, etc. will have one or more "tags" applied. That allows you to find the entry from various locations, instead of trying to guess how I decided to file it. The software for searching these tags is still growing, but the "TagCloud" is a popular way of representing things.

There is a menu to the top right for some various main sections of interest. The Tag Cloud link will open the cloud for all the tags. Larger words are used in more places. Scan through that and click on a word to see all the items with that tag.

Sounds confusing, but can work pretty well.

Future Directions

Where do we go from here? What gets added? Send me your feedback cac@craftacraft.com!

There are plenty of these scattered around the web, and I don't want to reproduce things just to reproduce them, but if the audience and combination of people who visit here are interested, I can certainly do some or all of the following... let me know your thoughts!

  • Personal blogs for other people's building efforts
  • Picture galleries
  • Glossary of terms
  • Slashdot for boat building (kind of tongue-in-cheek there)
  • Polls/votes
  • Articles submitted by others
  • Software (links and redistribute as appropriate)
  • Hull and interior designs
    • Sketchup3D files
    • Hullform files
    • FreeShip files
  • Discussion forum(s)
  • (Searchable) Mailing list archives
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